Policy Forum

May 20, 2022 | 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. ET | Washington, D.C.

The NAR, Urban Institute Policy Forum was held on May 20, 2022 at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

Check out the speakers lineup below:


Kaki Lybbert

Kaki Lybbert

2022 Vice President of Advocacy,
National Association of REALTORS®

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Kaki Lybbert (ABR®, BPOR, C2EX, CRS, SRES®), a REALTOR® from Copper Canyon, Texas, is the 2022 Vice President of Advocacy for the National Association of REALTORS®. She has been a REALTOR® for 27 years.

Kaki has been buying and selling real estate with Century 21 Judge Fite in Denton, Texas, since 1997. She is passionate about sharing the importance of advocacy issues with her industry peers and NAR members.

Kaki has served as Chair of NAR’s RPAC Major Investor Council, Corporate Investor Council, and RPAC Fundraising Forum.

She was the Chair of the Texas Association of REALTORS® in 2018. She previously served TAR as Secretary/Treasurer and Chair of TREPAC. Kaki has served on numerous other committees and boards in her community.

Kaki lives in North Texas with her husband, Dallas attorney Roger Foster, and their dog Nelson, a half cocker spaniel, half schnauzer. They also enjoy the company of cows, horses, goats, chickens, and other animals on their property.

Kaki’s father was president of the Dallas Homebuilders Association. Her son Chase works in oil and gas. Daughter Katie is a registered nurse and works for Kaki; Katie’s husband, Jodie, is a REALTOR®.

Kaki studied Business Administration at Louisiana State University, though her family also roots for University of Oklahoma and Texas Christian University football.

Kaki is a fifth-generation Texan and a history buff who enjoys diving deep into her genealogy. The Lybberts’ favorite getaway is to their property in southwestern Arkansas, which has been in the family since the 1940s.

Shannon McGahn

Shannon McGahn

Chief Advocacy Officer,
National Association of REALTORS®

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Shannon McGahn is the Chief Advocacy Officer for the National Association of REALTORS®, which represents more than 1.5 million members involved in all aspects of the residential and commercial real estate industries.

McGahn is responsible for managing NAR’s Federal Legislative and Political Affairs and Political Representative teams. She provides strategic advice on public policy issues impacting NAR and helps direct its Independent Expenditure and Public Advocacy programs.

Before joining America’s largest trade association, McGahn served as the staff director for the House Financial Services Committee and, prior to that, as a counselor to the United States Treasury Secretary. She also held communications roles for three members of House Leadership during her near 20-year Capitol Hill career.

In addition, McGahn served as Vice President for a D.C.-based public affairs firm, and held the same position for a consulting firm focused on grassroots communication in major national media markets.

The first woman to hold the Chief Advocacy and formerly Senior Vice President of Government Affairs positions in NAR’s 110-year history, McGahn brings with her nearly two decades of experience working with or for the legislative and executive branches of the U.S. government. As she continues her career at NAR, she is focused on working on behalf of America’s 1.5 million REALTORS® to promote and protect property ownership for people across the United States.

McGahn earned her B.A. in History from The George Washington University. A native of Westerville, Ohio, she currently resides in Alexandria, Virginia, with her husband and two sons.

James Wylie

James Wylie

Associate Director,
FHFA's Office of Fair Lending Oversight

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James Wylie is the Associate Director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency’s Office of Fair Lending Oversight. The office works to ensure Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banks provide fair, equitable, and nondiscriminatory access to mortgage credit and housing. James’s team is responsible for fair lending supervision as well as equity policy.

Prior to joining FHFA, James worked on fair housing and fair lending at the CFPB and HUD. James has also been an instructor and course developer for the National Fair Housing Training Academy.

James has a J.D. from the University of Oklahoma and a B.A. in history from the University of Tulsa.

Vanessa Perry

Vanessa Gail Perry

Non-Resident Fellow,
Urban Institute's Housing Finance Policy Center
Professor, George Washington University

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Vanessa Gail Perry, MBA, PhD is a Professor of Strategic Management and Public Policy at the George Washington University School of Business and a Non-Resident Fellow at the Urban Institute's Housing Finance Policy Center. Her research examines access to financial and housing markets, marketplace discrimination, and public policy, and has been published widely in scholarly journals and practitioner-oriented outlets.  She previously served as Senior Advisor to the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, an expert at the U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and as a consultant to numerous clients in the private and public sectors. Before joining the faculty at GWU, Professor Perry was a Senior Economist at Freddie Mac. Professor Perry holds a BA in Philosophy from The American University, an MBA from Washington University in St. Louis, and a Ph.D. from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

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Bryan Greene

Vice President of Policy Advocacy,
National Association of REALTORS®

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Bryan Greene is Vice President of Policy Advocacy at the National Association of REALTORS® (NAR) where he oversees all legislative and regulatory advocacy on behalf of the association's 1.4 million members. Bryan joined NAR in November 2019, and spent his first year at NAR raising the association's profile in Washington and nationwide on all fair-housing-related policy matters as NAR's first Director of Fair Housing Policy.

Before joining NAR, Bryan served for ten years as the highest-ranking career official in HUD's Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity (FHEO), where he oversaw the policy direction and operational management of the 600-person office enforcing the nation's housing anti-discrimination laws. Under Bryan's leadership as FHEO General Deputy Assistant Secretary, HUD pursued large-scale, high-profile cases that addressed systemic discrimination and provided widespread relief. Bryan also managed HUD's Fair Housing Assistance Program (FHAP) and HUD's Fair Housing Initiatives Program (FHIP), which together provide over $70 million to state and local government agencies and nonprofit organizations fighting discrimination in local communities.

Bryan has held other senior positions at HUD during his three decades at the agency, including a stint as the Associate Deputy Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs in HUD's Office of Policy Development and Research (PD&R), where he worked to reduce regulatory barriers to affordable housing.

Bryan was the 2007 recipient of the Presidential Rank Award, the highest federal honor bestowed upon federal senior executives for outstanding service.

Bryan earned his degree in Government from Harvard University.

Andrew Ackerman

Andrew Ackerman

Wall Street Journal

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Andrew writes for The Wall Street Journal's economics team in Washington, D.C., where he covers how Washington oversees Wall Street. His areas of focus include: housing, bank regulation and consumer finance. He can be reached by email at andrew.ackerman@wsj.com, on WhatsApp and Signal at +1-202-590-6178 and on Twitter at @amacker

Wendy Penn

Wendy Penn

Associate Vice President of Affordable Housing Initiatives,
Mortgage Bankers Association

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Wendy Penn is Associate Vice President of Affordable Housing Initiatives at the Mortgage Bankers Association. In her role, she provides strategic leadership and management of MBA’s efforts to facilitate new solutions to rental and housing affordability challenges.

Wendy oversees the execution of MBA’s CONVERGENCE place-based initiatives, the work of two MBA member advisory councils on affordable housing, MBA’s Consumer Affairs Advisory Council, and a variety of task forces, and special projects. 

Prior to joining MBA, Wendy spent 15 years with the National Association of REALTORS® (NAR), where she managed their Housing Opportunity Program. Her work focused on creating resources and providing technical assistance to state and local REALTOR® associations to help them create affordable housing initiatives. Before NAR, Wendy worked at the National Retail Federation as Director, Member Services.

Wendy holds an MS degree in Management from the University of Maryland Global Campus and a BS in Communications from James Madison University.

Mike Calhoun

Mike Calhoun

Center for Responsible Lending

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Michael Calhoun is President of the Center for Responsible Lending, which is the policy affiliate of Self-Help, the nation’s largest community development lender that has provided over $6.4 billion in financing for first time homeowner loans and small business loans. The Center for Responsible Lending is a nonpartisan, nonprofit research and policy institute focusing on consumer lending issues.  

Mr. Calhoun has been an active participant in consumer financial legislation and regulation, and he has more than thirty years experience in consumer lending. He has authored numerous papers on the subject and has testified often before Congress and many state legislatures.  Prior to joining CRL, he led several lending divisions at Self-Help, including the secondary mortgage market program. He is a former member and chair of the Federal Reserve Consumer Advisory Committee. Mr. Calhoun received his B.A. degree in economics from Duke University, and his J.D. degree from the University of North Carolina.

Lisa Rice

Lisa Rice

President & CEO,
National Fair Housing Alliance

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As President and CEO, Lisa Rice directs the National Fair Housing Alliance’s (NFHA) mission to eliminate all forms of housing discrimination and ensure equitable housing opportunities for all people and communities. NFHA leads the fair housing movement and is the trade association for over 200 member organizations throughout the country.

Ms. Rice is a published author contributing to several books and journals addressing a range of fair housing issues including - The Fight for Fair Housing: Causes, Consequences, and Future Implications of the 1968 Federal Fair Housing Act; Designed for the Future: 80 Practical Ideas for a Sustainable World; Discriminatory Effects of Credit Scoring on Communities of Color; and From Foreclosure to Fair Lending: Advocacy, Organizing, Occupancy, and the Pursuit of Equitable Credit.

She is one of the nation’s leading experts on fair housing and lending policies having played major roles in crafting sections of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, establishing the Office of Fair Lending within the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and implementing other legislative and policy initiatives. She also helped lead the investigation and resolution of precedent-setting fair housing and lending cases securing remedies for millions of people as well as the elimination of systemic discriminatory practices. Ms. Rice serves on various Boards and Advisory Councils.

Amy Scott

Amy Scott

Senior Correspondent,

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Amy Scott is Marketplace’s senior correspondent covering housing and the economy and a frequent guest host of our programs. She's based in Baltimore.

From 2010 to 2018 Amy was Marketplace's education correspondent, covering the business of education from pre-K-12 through higher ed and its role in economic mobility. In 2015, Amy completed the documentary film OYLER, about a Cincinnati public school fighting to break the cycle of poverty in its traditionally Urban Appalachian neighborhood. The film grew out of the year-long Marketplace series “One School, One Year,” which won a 2014 Gracie Award. OYLER has screened at film festivals around the country and was broadcast on public television in 2016.

In 2012, Amy and Marketplace China correspondent Rob Schmitz won a national Edward R. Murrow award for their investigation of agencies that place Chinese students in U.S. colleges. Their work also won first prize for investigative reporting from the Education Writers Association. Other honors include a 2010 National Headliner Award and a special citation from the Education Writers Association for an investigation of recruiting abuses at the University of Phoenix, co-reported with Sharona Coutts of ProPublica.

Amy joined Marketplace as a production assistant in September 2001, moving in 2002 to Washington, D.C., as a staff reporter. From 2003 to 2010, she reported from Marketplace’s New York bureau, focusing on the culture of Wall Street, and becoming bureau chief in 2008. In addition to leading Marketplace’s New York coverage of the financial crisis, Amy hit the road for two cross-country trips, exploring how Americans experienced the fallout. In 2008, she produced stories for Marketplace’s remote broadcasts from Egypt and Dubai for the “Middle East @ Work” series. In 2009, she spent a month reporting in Germany as a McCloy Fellow. Amy also won a Gracie Allen Award for feature reporting in 2006.

Before joining Marketplace, Amy worked as a reporter in Dillingham, Alaska, home to the world’s largest wild sockeye salmon run. A native of Colorado Springs, Colo., Amy has a bachelor’s degree in history from Grinnell College and a master’s degree in journalism from the University of California, Berkeley, where she studied documentary filmmaking.

Jerry Howard

Jerry Howard

National Association of Home Builders

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Jerry Howard, Chief Executive Officer of the National Association of Home Builders, has over 25 years of association experience and a lifetime in the housing industry. Jerry began his association career at the National Association of Realtors, where he served as a Legislative Analyst for tax issues. Prior to joining NAHB, Jerry served as the Chief Lobbyist for the National Council of State Housing Agencies where he was instrumental in the development of the low-income housing tax credit as part of the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

Jerry came to NAHB as tax counsel in 1988 and served in a variety of roles, including Chief Lobbyist. He was promoted to Executive Vice President and Chief Executive Officer in February 2001.

Before embarking on his association career, Jerry practiced real estate law in his home state of South Carolina. His exposure to the housing industry has literally encompassed a lifetime; Jerry grew up working in a variety of roles for his father, a developer.

Jerry earned a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Vermont and received his Juris Doctorate from the University of South Carolina. He, his wife Christina and their children Eirann, Meaghan and Sean live in Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C.

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Michael Neal

Principal Research Associate and Equity Scholar,
Urban Institute's Housing Finance Policy Center

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Michael Neal is a principal research associate and equity scholar in the Housing Finance Policy Center at the Urban Institute. Mr. Neal’s work intersecting racial equity and homeownership has assessed the disparate impact of the COVID-19 recession on homeowners of color, estimation differences of automated valuation models and the role of Black banks in supporting Black homeownership.

Prior to Urban, Mr. Neal was a Director of Economics in Fannie Mae’s Economic and Strategic Research Division and before that, he was an Assistant Vice President in the Economics and Housing Policy Department at the National Association of Home Builders.

Mr. Neal has a bachelor's degree in economics from Morehouse College and a master's degree in public administration from the University of Pennsylvania. He has also studied finance at Princeton University and economics at the University of Oxford.

Jacob Corvidae

Jacob Corvidae

RMI (formerly Rocky Mountain Institute)

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Jacob is a principal at RMI (formerly Rocky Mountain Institute), an organization that works to transform global energy systems to secure a clean, prosperous and zero-carbon future for all. Jacob leads RMI’s work with U.S. states. He is a co-author of The Carbon-Free City Handbook, and The Carbon-Free Regions Handbook, guides to help governments across the world. 

Based on over 20 years of experience in buildings and community development, he formerly led RMI’s residential buildings program and led the development of mortgages and other financing solutions.

Previously, Jacob was the Executive Director of EcoWorks, a nonprofit in Detroit that works at the intersection of sustainability, community development, and social justice.